audio opensource_audio <p>Artificial Intelligence discussion, Boulder Future Salon, May 2007. Participants: Wayne (me), Doug, Rich, Sarah, Christopher, Robert, Ann D., Ann O., Annie.</p> <p>A random meandering conversation touching on many subjects such as</p> <ul> <li> Playing Go and playing Chess <li> The Turing Test <li> The Grand Challenge clever tricks that humans can't do <li> your brain is smart at figuring out what your eyes see <li> brains and evolution, brains evolved only 700,000 years ago <li> The Loebner prize, and how humans were judged to be machines <li> how people confess to Eliza, how Eliza should be hooked to Google <li> neural nets worse than insects, and can't introspect <li> possibility of making AI's as intelligent as a philosopher <li> programming from the conscious mind vs subconscious mind <li> Monica Anderson's robot that walks like a starfish, versatility and adaptivity of walking gaits <li> is it a cockroach, or is it a tape recording? <li> genetic algorithms to learn to walk -- by somersaulting <li> "I want a program for my car to display the last speed limit sign seen" <li> stitching together photos to make a panaramic view, motion processing of the eye <li> our ability to remember faces, how much processing power do you need for image processing? <li> language is very high level and can't be broken down into a block diagram <li> how to screw up the Google Translater when tranlating from Chinese <li> Stuff between the lines is between the lines, double meanings, languages are inherently ambiguous, "trouble may wander far and wide, but it is always near" <li> Shannon's Limit on communication bandwidth <li> how can a program take multiple branches on an "if" probabalistically? <li> Computers can do integrals (the Risch Algorithm) like the world's best mathematicians, but can't do anything a 4-year-old can do <li> The human genome is 3.31GBP of DNA, or about 800MB <li> 800MB is not enough? much more happening in a cell <li> the genome has learning algorithms, learning how to see <li> 10^11 cells in the human brain, other cells in the brain, besides nerve cells <li> emergent complexity during growth, if you cut tendons in birds, wings don't grow <li> what is the difference between instinct and knowledge? <li> algorthims for figuring out how to figure out how to wire the neurons <li> monkey neurons speak a "set" language? <li> The axioms of mathematics is about 30, but the axioms we need is not a finite number <li> neurons are computationally complete, the fact that humans can do arithmetic proves humans have all the capabilities of a computer, humans natural inclination is not for doing integrals <li> the emotions of crossing the street <li> what's the algorithm for open-ended learning? <li> do horses dream of walking? do babies dream of the equations of inverted pendulums? <li> snowboarding and big wave surfing <li> humans are intelligent because we are inbred? <li> the brain is a good use of energy (for some people), brain uses a lot of calories, it has to pay off, does for humans and dolphins <li> what makes humans different from other primates? is it just brain size or is it cellular? <li> the information in the fertilized cell -- how much? vs the DNA? There is information in the nucleus not in the DNA <li> Von Neuman machines is just a set of operations and a stinkin load of memory -- what makes a blank slate that *thinks*? <li> are the materials in the factory (the lipids and proteins) the same as the blueprints for the factory? <li> Conway's Game Of Life <li> with DNA you can't "run" it without everything that goes with it </ul> Futurist; Future Salon; Artificial Intelligence Boulder Future Salon http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ BoulderFutureSalon-ArtificialIntelligence waynerad@gmail.com 2007-06-13 01:47:18 2007-06-13 01:57:02